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Thursday, December 3, 2009

Minimal Knead Sourdough Sandwich Bread



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15 comments:

Kimi @ the Nourishing Gourmet said...

Great Post! I love homemade sourdough bread. :-)

Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS said...

Millie ~ I've been waiting for you to share this method. I'm going to give it a run for its money. Hee, hee. :)

Millie said...

Thanks Kimi!

Wardeh,
I was still messing with the method trying to see if I could make it even less work and better tasting. It makes me happy when each week my family tells me 'this is the best bread ever'. The problem with making 'the best bread ever' is that they are eating it faster than ever!

Rebecca said...

I will have to give this one a try for my family. We buy packaged bread like crazy; they like my sourdough but not enough for sandwiches.

Ann Duncan said...

We don't do any bread (purchased or homemade) except for soaked/sprouted. And we keep up our own sourdough starter. This recipe sounds PERFECT and can't wait to try it! Looks like you've done a great job of show and tell on this, thank you much-much.

Blessings...

Millie said...

Ann and Rebecca,
If you try it and have any tips to improve it let me know. I'm on a quest to make the best possible everyday sourdough bread.

Michaela Dunn Leeper said...

I've got this on its second rise in the pans now. I'll LYK how it goes.

The SD crust was a flop :(

Millie said...

Michaela,
Too bad the SD crust flopped for you. We've enjoyed it. I'm sure in your crust quest you will find the perfect one.

We discovered a couple of baking times ago that the bread works using only 2 cups of sourdough too. It was an accidental discovery and I haven't repeated it but thought it was interesting.

Yolanda said...

This looks so nice. I am very happy to see the inclusion of kefir in the recipe. I make a sourdough bread using only kefir as the starter and it is very nice! You can check it out on my blog if you are interested. I am definitely going to try your recipe. Thank you!

Susanna said...

Hi Millie,
I've been making my own sourdough starter this week and am anxious to try your recipe next week! Couple questions: I have a Bosch, so kneading is not an issue, but am I correct in understanding that I should NOT knead this much (even though it would be simple to do so in the Bosch)?? Second, do you always feed your sourdough starter with whole wheat flour? I was just reading that it's better to switch it over to white, but wondering what your experience had been. Also, do you always use the 3.5 cups of kefir, or do you ever sub some water in? We are thoroughly enjoying our homemade commercial yeast bread (with gluten!) so we'll see how this whole sourdough thing goes. :) THANKS for your recipe, etc.!!!

Millie said...

Hi Susanna,
How exciting to be jumping into sourdough! With this recipe as it is written it does not need to be kneaded. This recipe was developed after I realized that kneading by hand and chasing a baby around wasn't working out for me. I used the same recipe but more flour when I was kneading it. ALOT more flour (up to 16 cups depending on how wet my starter was that week). So not only is this bread easier to make for me but also cheaper. If you want to knead then you will want to use more flour in order to achieve the elasticity of a well kneaded loaf.

I use homemade buttermilk or kefir or a combination of the two. I have even used part kefir and part whey before when I didn't have any buttermilk and was short on kefir. I do find that I have my best rise when I use a combination of buttermilk and kefir.
The real key to this bread turning out with the minimal kneading is the long rise time. I start the bread in the afternoon, let it rise in the bowl until morning, put it in my pans and then do not bake it until late afternoon. From start to finish it is 24 hours or even a little more.
My family had an adjustment time going from homemade yeast bread to homemade sourdough bread. And as I mentioned in the post, when I first started using my starter my loaves were awful. Once your starter matures a little though the bread will change. I use my starter for more than bread and I think it helps (pancakes, pitas, tortillas, crackers, etc). I do always feed my starter with whole wheat flour. I keep it in the fridge until ready to use then take it out a couple of hours before so it can warm up-sometimes I forget and use it cold with no problems.

Susanna said...

Hi Millie,
I just got the chance to try this recipe and was very pleased with the results! Not too sour, nice rise, soft crumb. And so, so easy!! I only did half the recipe since it was my first time. I'll definitely be repeating this recipe. Thanks for sharing, and for answering my questions!

Millie said...

Susanna,
I'm glad to hear you had good results! I think it is good to just do the two loaves the first few times until the starter matures a bit.

Anonymous said...

I`m trying this recipe for the first time and decided to half the recipe. I used half the starter, but still needed almost 10c. flour. I was using white wheat, could this be part of the prolem? I also used soaked oats in therecipe. I have just gotten the loaves in the pans, but it was so sticky I could barely get it in the pan. Is this right? Should I use more flour when mixing the dough? Thanks-Kristi

Millie said...

Hi Kristy,

The soaked oats would probably add a bit more moisture to the dough. I haven't tried adding that but I have used soaked oats in muffins and really needed to increase the flour to not end up with soupy batter. Also, soft white wheat (if you used soft instead of hard) may absorb the moisture differently. I haven't used soft white enough to say for sure. The dough usually looks quite wet after I mix it but shouldn't be 'dripping' wet just on the shaggy side. After the 24 hour soaking time thought it is usually not overly sticky to the touch. I can work with it without it making a mess of my hands. I'm leaning toward thinking the soaked oats may have been the issue with the wetness. You could try using dry oats for part of the flour next time if you would like to add oatmeal to it. It would all soak together and you would have soaked oat and soaked flour in the end. Hope that helps.

Thursday, December 3, 2009

Minimal Knead Sourdough Sandwich Bread



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15 comments:

Kimi @ the Nourishing Gourmet said...

Great Post! I love homemade sourdough bread. :-)

Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS said...

Millie ~ I've been waiting for you to share this method. I'm going to give it a run for its money. Hee, hee. :)

Millie said...

Thanks Kimi!

Wardeh,
I was still messing with the method trying to see if I could make it even less work and better tasting. It makes me happy when each week my family tells me 'this is the best bread ever'. The problem with making 'the best bread ever' is that they are eating it faster than ever!

Rebecca said...

I will have to give this one a try for my family. We buy packaged bread like crazy; they like my sourdough but not enough for sandwiches.

Ann Duncan said...

We don't do any bread (purchased or homemade) except for soaked/sprouted. And we keep up our own sourdough starter. This recipe sounds PERFECT and can't wait to try it! Looks like you've done a great job of show and tell on this, thank you much-much.

Blessings...

Millie said...

Ann and Rebecca,
If you try it and have any tips to improve it let me know. I'm on a quest to make the best possible everyday sourdough bread.

Michaela Dunn Leeper said...

I've got this on its second rise in the pans now. I'll LYK how it goes.

The SD crust was a flop :(

Millie said...

Michaela,
Too bad the SD crust flopped for you. We've enjoyed it. I'm sure in your crust quest you will find the perfect one.

We discovered a couple of baking times ago that the bread works using only 2 cups of sourdough too. It was an accidental discovery and I haven't repeated it but thought it was interesting.

Yolanda said...

This looks so nice. I am very happy to see the inclusion of kefir in the recipe. I make a sourdough bread using only kefir as the starter and it is very nice! You can check it out on my blog if you are interested. I am definitely going to try your recipe. Thank you!

Susanna said...

Hi Millie,
I've been making my own sourdough starter this week and am anxious to try your recipe next week! Couple questions: I have a Bosch, so kneading is not an issue, but am I correct in understanding that I should NOT knead this much (even though it would be simple to do so in the Bosch)?? Second, do you always feed your sourdough starter with whole wheat flour? I was just reading that it's better to switch it over to white, but wondering what your experience had been. Also, do you always use the 3.5 cups of kefir, or do you ever sub some water in? We are thoroughly enjoying our homemade commercial yeast bread (with gluten!) so we'll see how this whole sourdough thing goes. :) THANKS for your recipe, etc.!!!

Millie said...

Hi Susanna,
How exciting to be jumping into sourdough! With this recipe as it is written it does not need to be kneaded. This recipe was developed after I realized that kneading by hand and chasing a baby around wasn't working out for me. I used the same recipe but more flour when I was kneading it. ALOT more flour (up to 16 cups depending on how wet my starter was that week). So not only is this bread easier to make for me but also cheaper. If you want to knead then you will want to use more flour in order to achieve the elasticity of a well kneaded loaf.

I use homemade buttermilk or kefir or a combination of the two. I have even used part kefir and part whey before when I didn't have any buttermilk and was short on kefir. I do find that I have my best rise when I use a combination of buttermilk and kefir.
The real key to this bread turning out with the minimal kneading is the long rise time. I start the bread in the afternoon, let it rise in the bowl until morning, put it in my pans and then do not bake it until late afternoon. From start to finish it is 24 hours or even a little more.
My family had an adjustment time going from homemade yeast bread to homemade sourdough bread. And as I mentioned in the post, when I first started using my starter my loaves were awful. Once your starter matures a little though the bread will change. I use my starter for more than bread and I think it helps (pancakes, pitas, tortillas, crackers, etc). I do always feed my starter with whole wheat flour. I keep it in the fridge until ready to use then take it out a couple of hours before so it can warm up-sometimes I forget and use it cold with no problems.

Susanna said...

Hi Millie,
I just got the chance to try this recipe and was very pleased with the results! Not too sour, nice rise, soft crumb. And so, so easy!! I only did half the recipe since it was my first time. I'll definitely be repeating this recipe. Thanks for sharing, and for answering my questions!

Millie said...

Susanna,
I'm glad to hear you had good results! I think it is good to just do the two loaves the first few times until the starter matures a bit.

Anonymous said...

I`m trying this recipe for the first time and decided to half the recipe. I used half the starter, but still needed almost 10c. flour. I was using white wheat, could this be part of the prolem? I also used soaked oats in therecipe. I have just gotten the loaves in the pans, but it was so sticky I could barely get it in the pan. Is this right? Should I use more flour when mixing the dough? Thanks-Kristi

Millie said...

Hi Kristy,

The soaked oats would probably add a bit more moisture to the dough. I haven't tried adding that but I have used soaked oats in muffins and really needed to increase the flour to not end up with soupy batter. Also, soft white wheat (if you used soft instead of hard) may absorb the moisture differently. I haven't used soft white enough to say for sure. The dough usually looks quite wet after I mix it but shouldn't be 'dripping' wet just on the shaggy side. After the 24 hour soaking time thought it is usually not overly sticky to the touch. I can work with it without it making a mess of my hands. I'm leaning toward thinking the soaked oats may have been the issue with the wetness. You could try using dry oats for part of the flour next time if you would like to add oatmeal to it. It would all soak together and you would have soaked oat and soaked flour in the end. Hope that helps.